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Author:  south935 [ 22 Mar 2011, 18:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Groper

Would still like a sample from inside the Bay if anyone comes across one.

Author:  Octopussy [ 22 Mar 2011, 20:56 ]
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leave it with me old mate.

I'm sure members of the VNPA are reading this so here goes - Bridie Smith's article had two main LIES. Spearfishing did not wipe out Eastern Blue Groper in Victorian waters - the fish never existed west of the Prom. Where did she get that info from anyway? Further to that - as we all know the fish they have seen off Barwon Heads / Port Phillip Heads are NOT Eastern Blue's.

Lies make baby jesus cry Bridie. I just hope the lies were printed unintentionally and not printed as known lies from the author to push an agenda.

Author:  kiwi_scott [ 23 Mar 2011, 10:03 ]
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Taken from another source?

http://museumvictoria.com.au/about/mv-b ... sightings/

Author:  nigz [ 25 Mar 2011, 09:55 ]
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I have some questions!!
So is the purpose of obtaining specimens of Victorian Blue groper to:

1) Identify and differentiate the difference between Western and Eastern Blue Groper?
2)Use that information to remind the DPI that the two species are exclusive to the two state waters?
3)Use the information as objective evidence against the intermitten ban about to be/already imposed?
4)Quell public concerns/misconceptions that divers are taking a supposedly "Vulnerable" species due to their lack of knowledge between the two species?

peace.

Author:  south935 [ 25 Mar 2011, 11:15 ]
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1, 3 and 4. I'm too dumb to understand what 2 means?

Author:  nigz [ 25 Mar 2011, 13:54 ]
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Sorry, it was a trick question..

Quote:
2)Use that information to remind the DPI that the two species are exclusive to the two state waters?


ie. Use past records of sightings eg. Comp scores etc. as Anecdotal data to indicate that the species seen and captured in Victoria is ONLY that of the Eastern Blue Groper, which is exclusive to Victorian waters and that Western Blue Groper, is exclusive only to N.S.W waters.

Author:  kiwi_scott [ 25 Mar 2011, 14:28 ]
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So its the western blue groper because NSW is west of NZ? :lol:

Author:  ligure [ 25 Mar 2011, 16:55 ]
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kiwi_scott wrote:
So its the western blue groper because NSW is west of NZ? :lol:

:lol: :lol: gold
+1 karma

Author:  Brett Illingworth [ 25 Mar 2011, 17:37 ]
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Nigz, your compass is broken.

Author:  Brett Illingworth [ 25 Mar 2011, 19:54 ]
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For comparative purposes, this is what a Victorian Eastern Blue looks like.

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Author:  the brown mullet [ 25 Mar 2011, 20:56 ]
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this was the last big eastern blue groper seen in port phillip bay ;)

Author:  Lethal [ 25 Mar 2011, 23:06 ]
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Great fish Brett. Murray don't stir the pot it the greenies are misinformed enough as it is.

Author:  the brown mullet [ 26 Mar 2011, 00:08 ]
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lets be honest here, the greens are getting all the ammo they need from this thread being Available to the public.if u want to be smart about it move this thread!

Author:  Greg [ 26 Mar 2011, 08:34 ]
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Don't you think the Greens would have better things to do than read spearing forums and I wonder which Greens you actually mare thinking about. It's the VNPA we have to worry about and I really don't think they would be reading this either.

Half the shit I hear from people that the Greens want to do does not come from the greens but from the right wing shock jocks and dickheads from the Shooters and fishers and similar redneck right groups that are really Liberal stooges make up the other half.

Author:  sunshine [ 26 Mar 2011, 18:05 ]
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[quote="Greg"]Don't you think the Greens would have better things to do than read spearing forums and I wonder which Greens you actually mare thinking about. It's the VNPA we have to worry about and I really don't think they would be reading this either.

Half the shit I hear from people that the Greens want to do does not come from the greens but from the right wing shock jocks and dickheads from the Shooters and fishers and similar redneck right groups that are really Liberal stooges make up the other half.[/quote]

Do you mean myself ?

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